Please
read carefully to avoid potential hazards of scamist originating from
china posing as genuine buyers.
1)
Chinese brokers float buying enquiries and would ask for
pricing, pictures, datecode , some
of them are even ERAI
members.
2)
After receiving quotes, those scamist would ask for pictures,
date
code . (this
information is required for them to copy and reprint
fake parts in advance)
3)
China has huge potential of end user market as many
domestic industries require genuine parts for
their manufacturing activities. Some brokers ( scamist) would
really buy parts from you which will be immediately
switched/replaced
with already prepared fakes with your given d/c and picture info.
(Rest
(who do not buy)- price checker companies would use this
information to produce counterfeits.)
4)
Then
you will be intimated in no time that your parts are failure
and hence rejected. They
would even involve ERAI and other forums to
complete their scam and cheating.
5)
Fake
reports will be prepared on those fake parts which were already
with them. (In
Some cases China buyers may supply those parts to another
broker, first broker would not know about scam. He
may try to pursue
refund by all means involvingERAI
etc.)
6)
Eventually you
will send
RMA for the fake parts which you never sold them. By
this time
scamist would have made good money by replacing your
original parts. Though
ERAI would have been ignorant in these type of cases
intially. But
they do know about these kind of scams off late, As
usual ERAI
would always try to ignore these aspects just to protect their interest
and links
with
chinese counterfeiters.
Recently
one such deal ERAI got
involved and started forcing a genuine
supplier in South Asia to issue
a RMA on behalf of a Chinese buyer. That
chinese
buyer in Hongkong could have been genuine but their
immediate next buyer
played a scam who switched supplier's parts with the fake one.
ERAI as always supporter of their members ,(
irrespective of reality and truth) started
blackmailing the supplier with their weekly reporting tool, when they
did not comply, supplier
was
reported in their
weekly broadcast -dishonestly by Kristal snider.
The said supplier intimated ERAI with all the proof
and evidences of part being genuine, but
even then ERAI
did not take
care of incidence with fair mind. It
clearly give
indication of
ERAI
also being involved in this type of scams directly or indirectly.
What Kristal
Snider (President of www.erai.com) & Terry
Lively ( Operations Manager of ERAI) cares
most - is
the annual
membership (it
is not wrong
if we call it protection money or annual bribe) they
receive from scamist or counterfeiters who are flooded
across the globe like epedemic.
It is interesting to note that
after weeks same part was offered by many ERAI members in China
with
doubled prices. Eg.
GTZ trading, LRF, Tianma, Wins Electronics in shenzhen
After
Americans and Europeans started realising mal
practices and
unfair trade activities
of Kristal Snider, ERAI started looking for new
base and new members in China
to
keep their business alive.
With many hidden scams listed in
their company's hidden
agenda-ERAI cannot go a long
way in this industry. Soon it
will see its
end by its own illegal activities, if they fail to realise truth and
if they do not comply with broker community with proper moral and
ethics.
1)
Chinese buyers would buy parts which they would convert them
into military grade for
eg- you may sell them AD534JD (COMMERCIAL GRADE) which would be
reprinted as
AD534TD/883(MIL GRADE)- by
your broker or their immediate next broker.
2)
Chinese
broker would supply those converted or upgraded parts to their domestic
or international user. (
parts may pass Normal electrical functional tests)
Please
note that many mil
grade parts listed on many globalwebsites across the globe are
originated from china , which are fakes. What
you buy from china is
what is supplied from here, but you pay them five times
more for same own parts, just because they came back with
new label and print.
3)Converted
Commercial Parts
would
fail
or may
fail,
when it goes to real critical use in military application. Chinese
govt
need many
military parts which are banned by US govt In
such market situation many local brokers of China cheat their own
domestic buyers incluing their own military organisations. Apart
from selling locally, Chinese do sell Mil counterfeits parts
globally with the help of forums like ERAI, ERAIescrow, TBF,
parthunter.com etc.
4)
If failed,
your direct
buyer would ask for RMA and full refund. The
mistake is not with the parts, but with the wrong or upgraded usage of
commercial parts to mil parts. Recently
companies like Brokerforum , Erai were involved in such scams
who supported the chinese buyer(SCAMIST) , who
was trying to convert commercial part into MIL parts. These
forums were fully involved in
protecting their scamist members who pay them subscription and/or
annual bribe, They
did not wish to solve the issue because of their
business interest in Chinese market considering
big share of
subscription and links in Chinese flea market .
Some tips to avoid Chinese
scams: (while
selling anything to china directly or indirectly) 1) be
careful while quoting chinese brokers in China, do not give them Pictures , date codes or any
such critical information which would
facilitate them in making counterfeits.
2) Be careful while quoting to
anyone who is directly or indirectly
selling to chinese brokers. Do not give them complete
information without purchase order
3) Make sure you have firm
terms and conditions if parts are supplied
to Mainland china/hongkong directly or indirectly by your
buyer
4) Have a policy of No Cancel
/ No return/ no guarantee/ no
warranty if parts are sold directly or indirectly to mainland China or Hongkong or
any Chinese buyers trying to buy even
from their offices worldwide.
5) Make sure companies like
Brokerforum or ERAI do not play a game with
you to protect their members and to protect their business
interest with such scamist.
6) Do not trust fake reports
or reports created on fake parts of china.
Even if you wish to accept their report, please make sure they did not
perform wrong test to obtain the report.
Get the name and type of test performed. Make sure they did not perform
mil grade tests on your commercial parts.
7) Always keep records ,
documents, pictures of original parts, and if
possible retain few samples of original parts which can be used to prove
your parts AND for further
investigation.
8) Take an affidavit from
buyer that he/she would not sell to china and
if they do so you will not be responsible
9) No refunds/ No RMA shall be
given to parts supplied to China or any
parts go to china even if agencies like ERAI ask you to do so. In past
some scamist successfully managed
to use ERAI.
10) Avoid non-technical
companies to do arbitration who has vested
interest in Chinese business for eg. ERAI, TBF or any such platform.
11) Avoid doing escrow to
Chinese companies which will facilitate them in switching replacing
your original parts with fake ones
12) never give NET TERMS TO
any known or unknown chinese brokers.
